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It's a miracle, praise Jeeeezus! Nah, it ain't. It's a fucking disgrace to humanity, and in accordance with the bible. Here is the full news article for your consideration - www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/…


A 7-year-old boy was beaten to death by his parents last week after he failed to read the Bible and do his homework, according to Metro Police.

The horrific allegations of child abuse stand in stark contrast to the couple's Facebook pages, which seemingly show a loving and religious family devoted to Roderick Arrington, nicknamed "RJ." On one Facebook photo — apparently of Arrington and his niece — Markiece Palmer wrote: "My babies they make me happy. GOD bless the children!!!" On another photo of the boy and another child, Dina Palmer wrote: "I love them with heart and soul!!!!" A Facebook post from October 2010 reads: "Lord please guide my steps.... I'm trying 2 do better.... I wanna do better 4 my son, my family, myself, 4 you LORD!!!!!!!!

First of all, I guess god evidently considered this prayer kind of irrelevant, and this was his plan after all, or he doesn't exist. Secondly, you stupid journalist obviously haven't read the bible! Here's the lord thy god guiding thy child rearing successes -


"He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes." -- Proverbs 13:24

"Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him." -- Proverbs 22:15

"Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell." -- Proverbs 23:13-14

So you see, it all makes perfect sense. The mother loves him. The mother believes the bible to be true. If you love your children, the bible says, you beat them for their transgressions. And hey, I'm not even mentioning those verses which say that the child should be put to death for disrespecting his parents.

On another note, let's extend our grace to the WONDERFUL public school system which totally noticed that something was wrong and took the appropriate steps to correct it before it was too late. That was easy, right - a kid showing up with bruises over and over again. Thank you, dear government, for taking care of us. Now I know we can rely on you at the time of need. Go give yourself a fucking medal overpaid administrators, yay!

Man, did I ever mention what a great moral guide the bible is? Hell, if we didn't have the bible how would we ever know what's wrong and what's right? In my limited human ignorance, I would think that beating children and using violence (other than in self defense) is just wrong. However, thanks to the great bronze age moral guide handed down by the lord thy God, © Creator of the Universe and All That Shit ™, I have now realized that beating children is THE way to make them good. I am positively sure that the father's parents beat him, and look how he turned out - an awesome god-fearing Christian! Now, as soon as I find a good lawyer, I will be purchasing a baseball bat and visiting an elementary school near you, spreading morality and saving from hell left and right :o
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JadasArtVision Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Have you ever read "A Modest Proposal"? this is random but they way you wrote this journal reminded me of it. It's quite interesting.
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bobcat303 Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Well if you lack moral values (what's right and wrong) you lack empathy, not religion.
These parents simply do not have common sense. Naturally, people will care for what they see more than what they don't see. If they don't care about their son, they obviously wouldn't care about someone invisible as much.

They are mere idiots.
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ForeverUGR Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Taking the verses literally. It's not the bible's fault. It's how people interpret/understand/respond to it. It is deeper than you think. He who has ear listen. God said. Well I hope someday you'll get to understand it very well.
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Professional Photographer
So when it says to beat a kid with a stick, what's the non-literal meaning?
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Claudiu88 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012
It means to punish them for their mistakes and show the error of their ways in a way that would drive them to better themselves in the eyes of the Lord Saviour and the....

No, can't do it. Can't even try and get into the mindset of such people, and the ridiculousness of it all. I find it funny how many people will tell you that you do not understand the Bible...but never venture into explaining it fully, just justifying it. Which is pathetic, at best.

Like with poetry and people interpreting. The verses say that you should beat your child. But every idiot will try and justify it with some bogus explanation about how it's deeper than that, how it's not to be taken literally...and then tell you to take it literally that you WILL go to Hell if you don't believe in God...

Yeah...hypocrites everywhere.
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arbiter5570 Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012
your twisting the words of the bible
"He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes." -- Proverbs 13:24
if you love your kids you wont let them do whatever they want. (not beat your kids to show how much you care)
"Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him." -- Proverbs 22:15
kids dont know better. if you (modern day equivalent of spanking) they will learn not to do that.
"Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell." -- Proverbs 23:13-14
Once again, dont let your child do whatever they want. if they dont learn the ways of god they will learn bad things. teaching him whats right and wring by beating (spanking) them they will keep doing it. reasoning with them doesnt work at a younger age. they wont understand. and as bad as it sounds kids do understand pain. but id rather have felt pain after lying then not understand that it was bad.
and the new testament is about forgiveness. yes you should still punish your kids but putting them to death is extreme. the old testament serves for us to learn from how it was before christ. after its different. while theres still good advice back there a lot is no longer relevant because of the new covenant formed when christ died for us. any bad acts caused "because of the bible" is due to misunderstanding of the true meaning.
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Professional Photographer
What point are you trying to make? There are better ways of achieving compliance and good outcomes than physical violence.

| any bad acts caused "because of the bible" is due to misunderstanding of the true meaning.

Hahaha. If that were the case, I wouldn't even bother criticizing the book.
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arbiter5570 Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
sometimes the best option is a good spanking. its not exactly supposed to be a death sentence. Calling a spanking physical violence is like saying a tap on your shoulder is an attempt on your life. of course its a bit more exaggerated but the whole point is, that if used in the correct way spanking (or physical violence if you prefer) is a good tool in discipline. and have you ever thought that its not just the book your misunderstanding, but people as well? what has made you hate religion in such a way? Statistics show that people with a meaningful religion live longer and are happier. It gives people a sense of purpose and when you do what most say people work in communities and help others around the world. if more intellectuals help with interpretations or at least more people converse about what scripture meant you would find that its not evil. I knew a guy who tried to disprove christianity. He went on for five years, scanning the bible and analyzing it to the letter. He eventually realized that it made sense and converted. If you keep "disproving" it at face value and keep biased opinions on it you'll never make any progress. I've sat down and honestly evaluated my life. I asked myself "does god exist" ive found that there were times it didnt look like it. but more often then not, ive seen him the almighty, all powerful, god who created the universe, work in the life of one of his billions of childeren. the answer i keep coming back to is yes.
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Professional Photographer
| what has made you hate religion in such a way?

I don't hate religion. The word hate implies an emotional dislike.

| Statistics show that people with a meaningful religion live longer and are happier.

So you are saying that I should believe bullshit just to be happy and live longer? Because clearly if you are a Christian you must think that Hindus believe in complete bullshit, and vice versa. This is irrelevant for most non-believers, since you can't force yourself to believe things you KNOW not to be true.

Are you a shallow person whose only goal in life is to be happy, a hedonist? Of course not. Would you abandon religion if you found out that it made you slightly less happier on average? Of course not. If you want to be happy, a hippy high on pot is a heck of a lot happier than an average Christian.

Do you want to live longer? There's a lot you can do to that end - and many of those things are MUCH more effective than religion. Diet, exercise, a fulfilling occupation.

| if more intellectuals help with interpretations or at least more people converse about what scripture meant you would find that its not evil.

Yes, some parts of the bible are PURE evil. Go ask a 5th grader - is it OK to stone gay people? They'll say know, and are far more morally advanced than the authors of the Torah.

| I knew a guy who tried to disprove christianity.

He is a moron. Faith is not falsifiable.

| He eventually realized that it made sense and converted.

This proves the above statement. Because really, even the accounts of Jesus' resurrection don't agree on THE DAY it happened. Pathetic.

| If you keep "disproving" it at face value and keep biased opinions on it you'll never make any progress.

You don't know what you are talking about at all.

| I asked myself "does god exist" ive found that there were times it didnt look like it.

Are you THAT self-centered, really? You evaluate the existence of god based on your life experience? Please, learn how to think objectively.
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Puuronen Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Professional General Artist
This is just sick. I am spiritual rather than religious. Now, religion is life in many countries. But news like this, they are about just sick, sick people.
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cadisraizel1617 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Sooo, what are you trying to say?? I have no objections with hitting a 7 yr old with a belt. But the reason he was beaten, that's overreacting. -_-
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional Photographer
What can I say? Be the best you can be. If that means your morality is in the bronze ages, then so be it.
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ForeverUGR Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
*Siiiiiighhhh*
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Danvanbilderbeek Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Student Photographer
Ivan, I totally feel you man; it's all a load of crap unfortunately. When you become spiritual, you realize how separate religion makes humans from one another. It's funny when two people sit down and argue that their beliefs are "the right and only ones," but at the end of the day none of these two people can prove their points (this includes myself). It's all a parody, quite humorous in fact! According to this article you wrote, I can't find words to describe the pain I feel for that little boy.
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Jaygie Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Student General Artist
I think you like writing controversial topics just to get a rise out of your watchers, just my opinion. Is there any particular reason you're obsessing over religion? Not my business, just curious.
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SpiritWolfSong Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
*sigh* the bible is not a book meant to be taken for historical fact. trust me, that's the first thing they teach you in catholic school- which i went to up until college. it's more like a metaphor or a story- guidelines. not 100% hard facts. not meant to be taken literally but symbolically.
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Professional Photographer
So when it says to beat your child with a rod, what does it mean metaphorically?
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SpiritWolfSong Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
Allow me to but it this way before you take verses out of the bible make sure you read the whole thing. Proverbs Chapter 23 is about learning to control oneself and to teach your children to learn to control themselves. The step-father in this case was about as dumb as you get when it comes to interpreting scripture. he took the bible as fact in all likelihood he is probably from a protestant branch that believes that the bible is the only thing to use when raising a child. he didn't really look at the chapter as a whole. similar to what your doing you're taking bits and pieces of things to make them sound true when you yourself have refused to see thing for what they really are. the Facts in this case are as follows. One, an idiot who should not have even been near that kid killed him. Two, this guy is trying to hide behind a religion which the main purpose is protecting people and helping them relieve suffering. Three, you're condemning an entire religion due to the idiocy of an individual. also, if you look at your own verses that you took out you skipped over some other important versus such as "The discerning do everything with counsel. But whoever is senseless discloses his stupidity." (proverbs 13:16) Which means you discuss scripture to get a better understanding of what it means. And "Whoever sows iniquity will reap evils, and by the rod of his own wrath he will be consumed.."(proverbs 22:8) which if you think about it proves that those who harm people will suffer for what they do, like the step-father who is going to jail for beating his step-son. And also, "Do not touch the boundaries of little ones, and do not enter into the field of the fatherless."(proverbs 23:10) which also if interpreted means don't abuse the children. so in all honesty doe the bible really mean you can beat your kid? the answers obvious.
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Deadmenkil Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
you really need to get over yourself and whatever issues you have with religion. also from a purely objective view the bible does not say to beat a 7 year old to death.
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Professional Photographer
Oh, does it have an age restriction for beating that I (and the parents who did it) missed?
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Deadmenkil Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
no fool it is referring to discipline which is very much needed and obviously lacking in your case.
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Professional Photographer
So now I need to beaten into discipline too?
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Deadmenkil Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Apparently your tiny dogmatic view does not allow you to comprehend that discipline takes many forms not just physicality. Also even if i had not said the previous, one can not be beaten into discipline by definition.
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Professional Photographer
You are saying that I'm undisciplined based on what exactly? You don't really know me.
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Deadmenkil Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
based on the fact that you constantly feel a need for attention and also try to offend people which is another cry for attention. You are possibly even a narcissist. I do not wish to know you more than i already do from your posts anyway.
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dynamiteboy8 Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I've decided against arguing with you about religion, at least for now, you believe what you believe and I'll do the same.

However, as for your view of government (at least in this journal) I completely agree, they're all just sitting too high up for them to see that the good they're "intending" to do is not working. At all. One of my favorite things that my dad always says is, "Let's bring their pay down to a regular job, and just see how fast things change."
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Immortalium Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You're misunderstanding what the bible says. It's not about beating and abusing children. It's about spanking, or other forms of discipline and child rearing.
You're also blatantly ignoring many other passages that speak highly of a loving parent, and the passages that speak against those who harm children.
These people misinterpreted disgustingly what they've read. One's interpretation is not the original content.
You speak of the Bible and God as if they are horrors. You hate them. And you say that they are the biased ones. The amount of time and energy you put into trashing the Bible and God prove your uninhibited bias against them. You can't claim to be unbiased and reasonable if you're going to be like that.
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Professional Photographer
| You're misunderstanding what the bible says.

I'm not. The guy who beat his kid to death agrees.

| You speak of the Bible and God as if they are horrors.

No, it's a wonderful book of love. Let's go stone the gays, together, shall we?
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CorvusCorax92 Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What... the... actual... fuck.

Beaten to death? What is this, rural Afghanistan? Early medieval Europe? Even worse, the article says the mother called a pastor before she called an ambulance. I wonder why the biological father doesn't seem to have been a presence in his life after he moved away? That could have prevented this whole thing... unless his father was even worse than his step-father, of course.
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Professional Photographer
| What is this, rural Afghanistan

Similar type of values :o
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CorvusCorax92 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Apparently.
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TheJoanaPADJ Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
I don't even.....
da fuck.... that's why I'm NOT a religious person.... WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT??!!! Seriously... WHO beats his own children for not READING the fucking bible correctly.....
I don't blame the religion. I blame those fucking people who do this stupidity! WTF is wrong with this world?!!!
My little brother is only two years older than that boy!!!

I'm not a very violent people... but those "parents" should die... should die with a lot of pain....

and... I'm out...
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ALynnL Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I would like to know how his teachers/principal/school nurse didn't notice this was happening. In my college courses (I am studying to be a teacher), we have been told in almost every single class...

That if we choose to ignore a child who shows signs of abuse, we not only could lose our jobs, but we could end up doing jail time.

I really hope there are some come of repercussions for the school staff that let this happen. I realize that child services are swamped with cases, but just reporting it is the law. I think if a social worker was brought into this home, the boy might have been saved.
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Professional Photographer
| I really hope there are some come of repercussions for the school staff that let this happen

There won't be. The unions are untouchable in most places.
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dogatemymanuscript Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The people who take the bible word for word though I noticed tend to neglect the phrases about forgiving all and loving even thy enemies. To forgive and forget transgressions. The bible shouldn't be taken so literally in it's wording as it's old language wording could've meant something a bit different back then than it means today or was understood differently back then than it's taken to mean today. Plus as the ways of the world change (times change) things with it must change.
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Shibalove Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Preach man, preach. People take religion way too far, especially in cases like this. I'm fine if someone is religious, but it's wrong to go shove it down someone else's throat or hurt someone because they don't think the EXACT same way they do.
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dswilliams10 Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
any time a anyone especially a child dies it is a tragic thing. I think in punishment they should slowly beat the parent to death that killed him.
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SomethingCore Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
Punishing violence with more violence. How progressive and forward-thinking you are, that's sure to solve our problems!
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dswilliams10 Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
ok, u lock them up for the rest of there lives, spend millions of tax payer dollars to feed them put in a jail cell with a roof over there head, while they sit in jail and read the paper? while the rest of us who work honest jobs,have our income taxes increase every year until we're dead? no! Give them a year to prove they deserve to live, If they can't you hang them from the closest object higher then they are.
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SomethingCore Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
I, for one, would be much happier out in the world working (and possibly struggling) than being locked in a cell with mediocre food in an orange jumpsuit for the rest of my life, never able to see anyone I care about for more than a few minutes at a time once in a while (if I was lucky enough to have that privilege).
On another note, it interests me as to how one could "prove they deserve to live" after killing someone if, in your opinion, the default is to kill them off in exchange.
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dswilliams10 Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
thanks for the conversation.
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Professional Photographer
The problem with that suggestion is that it doesn't solve the problem. Should we also beat the dad's parents too, because they obviously abused him when he was a kid?
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cillanoodle Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Okay, I usually do not comment on these types of journals, but this one. . . Let me make this clear from the start: I am a non-denominational Christian who was brought up in a very spiritual household. My mother is a single mom who had no one else to rely on but God and the Church. Because of my past, and my family's past, I am more sensitive to issues like this. What happened to this little boy was horrible. There is no doubting that. There is also no doubt that the reason for his death was completely and utterly stupid and his parents should be punished to the full extent of the law. But that's where my sympathy for your rant ends. It is not the fault of an entire belief system that these people did what they did. It was how they interpreted the Word and their own psychotic tendencies. The verses you quote are from the Old Testament and are in direct violation of Jesus' greatest commandment which is Love. Plan and simple. If you love your child, you will treat them with the respect that is due to them, not only as human beings, but as your future. Unfortunately, many religious people only use passages and verses that validate their point of view and it is these people that garner the most attention because it seems to be human nature to seek out the negative in things that we feel threaten us. When was the last time a family got this much attention for raising their children with good values? To be honest, this journal and it's predecessors, have made me second guess having you on my watch list. I originally put you on my list because of your awesome photography skills and how much i admire you as an artist, not to have my beliefs skewered almost every time I check my messages. If this sounds childish and hurtful, than I'm sorry, but it's the way I feel.
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ForeverUGR Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Huwwwa! I totally agree :( Broke my heart just by reading this. *sigh* i "LOVE" his photos. But the journals.... Err </3 I feel sorry.
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Devaly Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You can follow his photography without following his journals. Change the options under your friends tab.
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cillanoodle Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Might just do that. Thanks!
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Devaly Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You're welcome. :)
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LOULOUGSTP Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
please read this as well : Une mère tue son fils qui n'arrivait pas à mémoriser le Coran, A woman killed her son Burn him after to disguise her killing because he could not learn the CORAN !!!! CAN WE STOP THOSE EXTREMISTS
? Well ALl religion has extremists, they just dont want to serv GOD, they use GOD to kill, that is wrong : see : [link]
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Professional Photographer
Same thing, I saw it on the news - it's here in Canada.
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TheOneMarina Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
That last line cracked me up! :) Right said!
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