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Jasper is a 10 year old dachshund, whose fate - in accordance with God's Divine Plan - included having paralyzed hind legs. Can you just picture the almighty creator of the universe having a good old chuckle looking down and seeing Jasper crawl around like a mutated worm, while his able-bodied brethren ran around in joy.

But alas, thanks to a clinical trial which involves a transplant of olfactory ensheathing cells by atheist scientists who believe in evolution, the dog has made rapid progress and is now able to walk! Click the link for video of "before" and "after".

Hallelujah, praise the Lord, amen! Who said science was heartless and cold? :)
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Soapy-Lump-Nugget Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Though it was a little insensitive of you to present it this way, I am really glad you presented it at all. ;P And anyway, if it's your opinion you might as well share it. Heck, this is a journal.
All these people un-watching you are losing insight from a terrific artist. Their problem, not yours.
I admire you for being able to proudly state your opinion with confidence and evidence. :thumbsup:
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Professional Photographer
Thanks. I hope to entertain even if you disagree with me.
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Soapy-Lump-Nugget Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
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dynamiteboy8 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Not me, I love science. Never said anything was wrong with it. Science is amazing, it can do some pretty incredible things. But so can God, who said that it was his plan to punish that dog? Maybe everything doesnt go according to plan, I'm sure you've experienced that before. And besides, if it was His plan, then it was for a reason, to make the dog stronger or appreciate life! But He wouldn't have done it for entertainment and to laugh at that dog!
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Professional Photographer
| Maybe everything doesnt go according to plan

Not if you're an all-powerful all-knowing creator of the universe.
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dynamiteboy8 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
As if that means you dont have anything on your plate, besides, I like how you picked to argue that side of what I said even though I went ahead and said this side of my arguement too.

If you'll remember:

|And besides, if it was His plan, then it was for a reason, to make the dog stronger or appreciate life! But He wouldn't have done it for entertainment and to laugh at that dog!

Plus we humans still have to take some of the blame, yet we are too stubborn to let ourselves, so the atheists blame God and the creationists blame Science and its just a never ending cycle that goes around and around.

We have to take blame for the shit that we've caused, not blame it on other people or deities.

I could've gone off to say, "Well if science is so graceful and pure and amazing, then shouldn't they have been able to save the dog of those 10 years of suffering by using their science earlier in the dogs life!"
Just as you have said, "Well if God is this all-powerful all-knowing creator of the universe, shouldn't he have saved this dog from the 10 years of suffering by some gracious miracle or something?"

But we can't blame others for our own problems caused by our own hand, you could just as much have said why do people die in wars, why doesn't God save them from the fying bullets and the dropped bombs? Because we (the humans) are the ones who invented the guns and the bombs. He gives us free will. Yet all we do with it is go on to make our own mistakes and then blame others for them.

Can you honestly say that that isn't exactly what we do?
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roj Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
Someone had to say it and I'm glad it was you. Hear hear!!
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kingkiiro Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Wow. Reading this really broke my heart, as a person who loves animals, and also as a Christian. I'm sorry, but this is has pushed me to my limits. I'm un-Watching you.
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Professional Photographer
Interesting, can you clarify what exactly broke your heart?
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kingkiiro Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Just the over all thing really, I'm a very sensitive person, so the smallest things can set me off. I do apologize though, I'm not wanting to start anything; just merely stating my opinion. The title is what got me though. God tortures little dog, I mean, that is a very....uhmm....well, a very strong statement that makes more than a few people squirm with un-comfortableness.
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Professional Photographer
And it's uncomfortable because it's inaccurate or precisely because it's true?
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kingkiiro Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Well, I wouldn't necessarily say it's true. I am a Christian, but not a very strong one. Although, do believe God doesn't like to see anyone/anything suffering or in pain, etc.. He doesn't meddle in living situations; plus our world isn't mean to be perfect. Science is amazing, I've always loved it, I'm just not fond of the idea of evolution is all. What the scientist did was amazing and I'm happy that the dog is better and what not, but saying that God did it on purpose.....well, to me just isn't right. To you it may be right, but to me, no. It's also uncomfortable because you're accusing someone that many people believe in and worship of doing a very terrible and cruel thing.
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Professional Photographer
| He doesn't meddle in living situations

Have you ever read the bible?

| I'm just not fond of the idea of evolution is all

Facts don't change based on our preferences.

| To you it may be right, but to me, no. It's also uncomfortable because you're accusing someone that many people believe in and worship of doing a very terrible and cruel thing.

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then He is not omnipotent. Is He able, but not willing? Then He is malevolent. Is He both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is He neither able nor willing? Then why call Him God?"

Epicurus (c. 341 - c. 270 BC)
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kingkiiro Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
.....and this is the reason why I never leave comments on anything really. Yes, I have read the Bible. I'm talking about every-day-modern-occurrences.
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Professional Photographer
| I'm talking about every-day-modern-occurrences.

Yeah, go tell that god doesn't meddle in shit to the billions of people who pray to him every day.
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TW-Photo Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I have to agree with Mikeious: I'm gonna unwatch your journals. Sorry, Ivan, but your opinions should belong on a personal blog, not DeviantART.
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Monkey-Meets-Banana Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Student General Artist
Science is good, it can be very helpful in many ways. However, God does not paralyze people or animals. He is not spiteful. Bad things happen. Its just easier to blame god for it.
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ElementalShifter Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Well, we do breed dogs beyond the bounds of anatomical practicality. Every corgi I've ever known has ended up paralyzed or something of the kind as they age, and it's because of their elongated backs. Something people have bred into them for purely aesthetic reasons. True, I've seen just as many, if not more dogs who are paralyzed due to accidents, but certain traits that we have selectively bred into specific breeds make certain dogs more prone to various injuries.
German Shepherds, for example, are, according to "breed standards", supposed to have a lower back end and legs that make them look like they're squatting. ([link]) They didn't start out like that, however, their back legs were like any other canine's. ([link])
It's not god. It's humans who have played god that cause certain adverse effects.
-feel free to call me out on my bs if someone is more knowledgeable about this than I, I haven't studied this at length, but based my info on a few documentaries I've seen-
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MREcartoonist Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow. Someone is spiteful.

I could argue on this, but than we would be practically writing a novel.

See, religion doesn't matter. Whether you are Christian or Atheist, squeaky wheel still gets the grease, and it is those people that make everyone else look bad.

This sort of thing belong on Facebook, not an art site.
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Kazuyalord Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Judging by those comments - you have soooo many creationist followers! ;D And they just luv to sit on your troll.

You have every right to write a journal like this one, haha, don't listen to them.
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Shibalove Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I love science, it helps people ^^
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gelupeh Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012
real mature there
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Arenoptara Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I believe in God. I also believe in evolution as well. Wholeheartedly.
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IceHandTitan Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Why don't you try seeing things in a different light? To say that the only reason an animal's legs could be paralyzed is because God is vengeful is an incredibly singular point of view. There are so many more reasons, of which your brilliant watchers are bringing forth tons. Rather than just posting a journal of a very sharp conclusion, I'd rather see you try to see it from other points of view. Or at least give a bit more leeway to alternate points of view or show a stronger thought process other than 'people are stupid, so I must be right'.
Which can be true, admittedly, but doesn't support an argument well.
Just something to think about.
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DanCrystalis Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
hmmmm...
id like to think that the dog taught a few people some lessons, after all we're talking about the little guy right now and theres a video on him and olfactory ensheathing cells, if it wasnt for him less people would know of this scientific breakthrough and perhaps someone might die... maybe im getting abit off hand but do you see my point?
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Ludjia Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I must say I prefer your journals when they aren't just flamebait and take a more objective stance (if such a thing is possible for you) This does not give me, atheist or not, anything substantial.
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Professional Photographer
If you're an atheist, there is no cognitive dissonance involved here for you. Why should it give you anything substantial?
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Vulpes-Vulpes-Fox Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
What the hell does the scientists happening to be atheistic have to do with them finding the cure? Christian scientists find cures too, y'know- hell, a priest came up with the Big Bang Theory.
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Professional Photographer
As a Christian, what would you say is more powerful - the scientific method, or God?
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Vulpes-Vulpes-Fox Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
God, of course. You seem to be implying that a scientist must believe that the scientific theory be the most powerful thing in aforementioned scientist's mind. Am I correct?
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Professional Photographer
| God, of course.

OK, so then god didn't want the poor dog to walk, or..? The disability met its match with science.

| must believe that the scientific theory be the most powerful thing in aforementioned scientist's mind

Not at all.
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Vulpes-Vulpes-Fox Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
God isn't out to heal all the poor little fuzzy creatures, y'know. Though besides that fact, you mean it is impossible for a God who can do anything to work through a few scientists, even if they happen atheistic, to heal that dog? All he does musn't have to be 'in person'.

Glad I was just reading too much into it, then.

(On a completely somewhat kinda unrelated note, how to you get those line things?)
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Professional Photographer
| God isn't out to heal all the poor little fuzzy creatures, y'know.

But he was out to actually give this dog an inability to walk? Did that one slip by him?

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Vulpes-Vulpes-Fox Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Nature and/or people (considering I don't know the circumstances). He doesn't regulate them, either.

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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Professional Photographer
I think you got that wrong. Everything is part of god's divine plan, and everything is under his control. You should believe that as a Christian.
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Skull-the-Kid Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012
I'm obviously not saying this in defense of 'god', but the creation of dachsunds (I'm the owner of a dog of this race, but it wasn't my choice) itself may be seen as a potential torture perpetuated by humanity. Considering the common problems to the back and legs (often paralysis, precisely) caused by their unnatural anatomic structure.
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Professional Photographer
| Considering the common problems to the back and legs (often paralysis, precisely) caused by their unnatural anatomic structure.

I know, I know. But I guess the breeding of dachsunds was also part of god's divine plan :) At least that's how a theist should view it.
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tromacom Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
This could have been worded a whole lot differently and NOT provoked a massive flame war. I'm not religious, but I really think you're being pretty insensitive here. There are phrases here that are clearly designed to provoke.
You could have put forward 'look at this advance in science that has helped to correct a genetic disorder'. Or you could have simply put 'here's a dog, it has problems walking, is this the work of a loving God?'
To lather this in sarcasm is just...petty. As an idea, the next time you want to point out a scientific marvel, leave out the religious references unless it associates directly. I really don't have the time for half-assed flame fuel journals.
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Professional Photographer
If something is not provoking, it's freaking boring. The only way I see that something could be done wrong is to provoke in the wrong way.
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tromacom Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
But why provoke? I mean really, the only point I can see for something like this is just to cause a lot of anger. Do you expect any religious people to see it and go 'hmm, that's a good point. I'm going to be reasonable and understand his point of view even though he is attacking my beliefs'? That's not really human nature, if I'm perfectly honest.
Like I said, this just seems a little petty. Anyone else would want to appreciate the fact a dog can walk again, but you just seem to want to rub people up the wrong way.
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Professional Photographer
| But why provoke?

To engage interest.

| just to cause a lot of anger

I want to cause cognitive dissonance, not anger.
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tromacom Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Is it a discussion you wanted? Because if it is, I still think you've gone about it the wrong way. You say you want to engage interest and get people to think, but if you truely wanted that you should have really cut out the sarcasm. You aren't going to get meaningful discussions from irritating the wrong people in the wrong way.
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TheJoanaPADJ Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012
I just loved this journal of yours. :3
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Rock-N-Roller14 Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Student General Artist
Science can still produce more bad than good, but seeing revolutions such as this really makes me smile :D
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IvanAndreevich Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Professional Photographer
That's true. Science is only a very effective tool which can be used for anything.
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Rock-N-Roller14 Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Student General Artist
Indeed
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Eternal-Wake Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012
I love these journals of yours. Especially reading the comments. Gets me every time :D
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Pulicoti Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012
:lol: true
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Spiritomb1231 Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I though you where a nice guy but I was wrong, Lord have marcy on your soul you are blinded by satan so much that you think our creator is laughing at a dog he would never do that. This is how he created life and we just have to pray for them and move on. Im going to pray for you that the Lord will help you see his light, i'm not going to stand around and watch satan harm you and blind you from seeing God's light.
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Koeskull Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Seriously?
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